onsdag den 21. august 2013

Nu med tyrkisk skattenummer, bankonto og ipad/ Now with Turkish tax number, bank account and ipad.

Nå det var jo meningen at Ipaden skulle blive afleveret på hotellet lørdag. Men det blev den selvfølgelig ikke ;) så ville de måske komme søndag, men der kom heller ingen ipad.
Mustafa ringede så til butikken og brokkede sige igen. De sagde det var fordi den skulle komme helt fra Istanbul og det tog længere tid end de havde regnet med. Men de lovede den ville være hjemme tirsdag, hvor vi kunne komme og hente den på Mustafas fridag.
Jeg har jo søgt 3 måneders orlov fra mit arbejde. Som jeg har planlagt skal bruges på at rejse rundt og opleve Tyrkiet. Man da man som dansker kun har 90 dages fri visum i Tyrkiet, i løbet af en periode på 180 dage. Så render jeg jo ind i et problem, da jeg allerede har været her i 5 uger.
Det kan man så løse, med at søge en turistisk opholdstilladelse på 6 måneder. For at få den skal man have en tyrkisk bankkonto, hvor der står 10.000 lira.
Men for at få en tyrkisk bankkonto, skal man først have et tyrkisk skattenummer.
Så på Mustafas fridag satte vi jagten ind på et skattenummer til mig. Det er der som sådan ikke så mange problemer i at få. Hvis man kan finde ud af at forklare hvad man gerne vil have. Men det havde jeg lidt svært ved at forklare Mustafa, som nærmest ikke kan noget engelsk endnu.
Men heldigvis fik jeg hjælp fra en god facebook gruppe, som hedder danskere i Bodrum.

(Well it was supposed that the iPad should be handed in at the hotel on Saturday. But it was not of course;) then they would maybe come Sunday, but there were also no ipad.
Mustafa phoned the store and grumbled again. They said it was because it had to come all the way from Istanbul and it took longer than they had thought. But they promised it would be at home Tuesday, where we could come and get it on Mustafa's dayoff.
I've got 3 month sabbatical from my work. As I have planned to use to travel around and discover Turkey. But when you only have 90 days as a Dane free visas in Turkey, during a period of 180 days. Then I get a problem, since I've already been here for 5 weeks.
I can solve, searching a tourist residence at 6 months. In order to get it you need a Turkish bank account, where it says 10,000 lira.
But to get a Turkish bank account, should I first have a Turkish tax number.
So on Kemmannu day off we set the hunt into a tax number for me. It is not hard to get. If you can figure out how to explain what you want. But I had a little difficulty explaining Mustafa, who can hardly any English yet.
But fortunately, I got help from a good facebook group called Danes in Bodrum.




Så var det bare at finde skattekontoret. Vidste jo bare at det lå i nærheden af shoppingcenteret Oasis. Så der tog vi en dolmus ud, og begyndte så at lede.
Vi måtte dog spørger et par gange om vej, og det viste sig at vi nok skulle have stået af lidt før oasis.
Selvfølgelig var det også den varmeste dag, over 40 grader, hvor vi vadede langs den store vej i brændende sol. Pyha.
Man da vi først fandt kontoret, og de forstod at det bare var skattenummeret jeg ville have(de troede det var opholdstilladelsen, og blev ved med at sige jeg skulle til politiet først), ja så tog det 5 minutter at få mig et skattenummer. Jeg skulle bare vise mit pas, og skrive hvad mine forældre hed.
Bagefter hoppede vi på en dolmus igen og kørte mod computerbutikken for at hente ipad. Den var selvfølgelig ikke kommet. Suk suk hvilket tålmodighed man skal have for at handle i dette land ;) Men Mustafa skældte dem ud og sagde at jeg var turist og skulle rejse hjem dagen efter, så vi skulle have den idag. Vi fik så at vide at de ville sørge for den kom til om aftenen.
Så tog vi en ny dolmus til Midtown, vi havde aftalt at vi ville spise Iskender kebab derude, da det var super godt sidste gang.

(Then it was just finding the tax office. Knew, of course, just that it lay near the shoppingcenter Oasis. So there, we took a dolmus out, and began then to lead.
However, we had to ask a few times for directions, and it turned out that we probably should have stood by the bus a little before oasis.
Of course, it was also the warmest day, over 40 degrees, where we walked along the main road in the burning sun. Phew.
When we found the Office, and they understood that it was just the tax number I would have (they thought it was the residence permit and was saying I was going to the police first), so then it took 5 minutes to get me a tax number. I just had to show my passport, and write my parents ' names.
Afterward we jumped on a dolmus again and drove toward the computer shop to pick up the ipad. It was of course not come. What a patience you have to have in order to buy something in this country;) But Mustafa grumbled and said that I was a tourist and would travel home on the day after, so we should have it today. We were then told that they wanted to make sure it came to in the evenings.
So we took a new dolmus to Midtown, we had agreed that we would eat Iskender kebab out there, since it was super good last time.)



Vi tågede rundt i centeret et stykke tid, fik en smoothie og var så klar til at tage bussen hjem igen. Det er en gratis centerbus, som kører en gang i timen fra Midtown til Bodrum by. Men så ringede de fra computerbutikken at Ipad'en ville komme hjem til kl. 18. Og så nåede vi ikke bussen.
Så vi gik en tur i det kæmpe store supermarked og kigge i 40 minutter. Jeg er virkelig imponeret over alle de spændende og friske sager de sælger ;)
Så fik vi çay og noget tyrkisk kage. Jeg var virkelig nervøs om jeg nu kunne lide det, for bryder mig faktisk ikke ret meget om deres søde sager hernede. Men begge slags var vældig gode, min smagte lidt som en blanding mellem en god svampet brownie og en kiksekage. Mustafas kage var en birkes kage og smagte også fint. Ingen af dem var overdreven søde som tyrkiske kager ofte er.

(We walked around the Mall for a while, got a smoothie and was ready to take the bus back home. It is a free centerbus, which runs once an hour from Midtown to Bodrum town. But then called staff from computer shop that the iPad would come home to kl. 18. Since Mustafa was finished to talk, was the bus run and we had to wait an hour more in the Center.
So we went for a walk in the giant supermarket and look in 40 minutes. I am really impressed with all the exciting and fresh food they sell;)
Then we got çay and some Turkish cake. I was really nervous if I liked it, because I'm not so crazy about their sweets down here. But both were very good, my kind of tasted a bit like a mix between a good spongy brownie and a biscuit cake. Mustafa's cake was a poppy seed cake and tasted fine too. None of them was very sweet as Turkish cakes often is.)

                                      



Vi var lige ved at komme for sent til bussen, fordi vi skulle have kage også. Men den var heldigvis forsinket så vi nåede det ;)
God trætte, svedige og endelig ankommet til Bodrum besluttede vi os for lige at snuppe en time eller to på øjet. Men ak, så ringede de fra computerbutikken at nu var Ipad'en ankommet. Så måtte vi til at ned på dolmusstationen igen.
Vi fik den hentet, overlevede den halsbrækkende tur over den kæmpe store og mega trafikerede vej, vi blev nød til at krydse for at få den rigtige dolmus til Bodrum by igen, og så smuttede vi hjem og fik en time på øjet ;) synes godt nok det havde været en lang og varm dag.
Om aftenen spiste vi lidt mad på en lille tyrkisk fortovs restaurant og på vejen hjem kom vi forbi denne heldige hund.
Kan man næsten se mere afslappet ud?
Ejeren havde lige haft den en tur i bad, og stod og friserede den da vi gik forbi. Han mente dog ikke han behøvede at komme med på billedet :)

(We were just getting too late for the bus, because we were going to have cake too. But it was fortunately late so we reached it;)
Tired, sweaty and finally arrived to Bodrum we decided just to grab an hour or two on the eye. But then called staff from computer shop that now was the iPad arrived. So we had to go to the dolmusstationen again.
We picked up the Ipad, survived the breakneck trip across the huge and highly trafficked road, we were forced to cross to get the right dolmus to Bodrum town again, and then we went home and got an hour at the eye;) I also think it had been a long and hot day.
In the evening we ate some food on a small Turkish sidewalk restaurant and on the way home we came past this lucky dog.
Can you see more relaxed than this dog?
The owner had just had it in the bath, and stood and brushed it as we walked past. The owner, however, would not be in the picture:))



Dagen efter skulle vi i banken for at oprette bankkonto til mig. Så den er klar til at sætte penge ind på næste gang jeg kommer. Så jeg kan få min opholdstilladelse, da jeg ved hjælp af bankkontoen kan bevise at jeg kan forsøge mig selv mens jeg er her.
Jeg valgte Türkiye iş bankası. Jeg har ikke spor forstand på tyrkiske banker, så jeg valgte den som Mustafa mente var godt.
Jeg havde ellers været på nettet og læse andre danskeres erfaringer med banker, men alle har forskellige meninger, så det blev jeg ikke klogere af.

(The day after we were in the Bank to set up bank account for me. So it is ready to put money into the next time I come. So I can get my residence permit, when I need to use the bank account to prove that I can support myself while I'm here.
Türkiye iş bankası I chose. I have no sense of Turkish banks, so I chose it as Mustafa thought was good.
I had otherwise been on the net and read other Danes experience with banks, but everyone has different opinions.)




Da vi kom ind i banken spurgte Mustafa, hvor vi skulle henvende os. Og vi blev sendt til et kontor som tog sig af bankkontoer til turister. Fedt tænkte jeg, så må bankdamen da kunne noget engelsk :)
Men der tog jeg helt fejl, hun kunne ikke et eneste ord.
Det vidste sig at jeg skulle bruge mere end mit pas og mit skattenummer for at få min bankkonto, jeg skulle også have en officielt papir med min faste adresse i Tyrkiet. Så vi blev sendt ud af banken igen.
Der blev jeg godt nok noget frustreret, for uden bankkonto ingen opholdstilladelse næste gang jeg skulle komme.
Og jeg har jo ingen fast adresse, havde fået lov til at sige min adresse var hos min Tyrkiske veninde Selbihan, og det var meningen at jeg ville have banken til at sende mit visakort osv. til hende.
Men den gik ikke fordi det ikke var et officielt papir det stod på.
Efter meget snak frem og tilbage fandt vi ud af, at det var fint med et papir fra hotellet, hvor de skrev at jeg havde adresse hos dem. (Også selvom der stod jeg rejste hjem 4 dage senere) så efter de havde skrevet det til mig, var vi i banke igen. Så tog det ikke lang tid at få en bankkonto, så nu er det klaret.
Og jeg må sige at den service vi fik i banken var rigtig godt. Der var slet ingen ventetid overhovedet. De tre gange vi trak et nummer, blev vores nummer kaldt op med det samme.
Og det smarte er, at mine bankpapir og visakortet, slet ikke behøver at blive sendt med posten. Jeg kan bare komme ind i banken og hente det, når jeg kommer til Tyrkiet igen om 3 uger. Hvor jeg jo alligevel skal ind og sætte penge ind. For havde bekymret mig lidt over, om de ville sende det til hotellet, hvor jeg jo er rejst hjem fra. Men ingen problemer der :)

(When we came into the Bank asked Mustafa, where we had to address us. And we were sent to an Office which took care of the bank accounts to tourists. Well I thought, so must the bank Lady talk something English:)
But it was a mistake, she could not a single word in English.
It knew that I needed more than my passport and my tax number to get my bank account, I also had to have an official paper with my permanent address in Turkey. So we were sent out of the Bank again.
There, I was frustrated, because without bank account no residence permit next time I should come.
And I have no permanet address. I had been allowed to say my address was with my Turkish friend Selbihan and I wanted the Bank to send my visa card, etc. for her.
But it didn't work because it was not an official paper it stood on.
After much talk back and forth, we found out that it was fine with a paper from the hotel, where they wrote that I had my address with them (even though I travelled home 4 days later) then after the hotel had written it for me, we went to the Bank again. So it took not long to get a bank account, so now it's done.
And I must say that the service we received at the Bank was really good. There was no wait at all. The three times we pulled a number became our number called up immediately.
And the smart is that my bank paper and visa card, do not need to be sent in the mail. I can just get into the Bank and get it, when I come to Turkey again about 3 weeks. Where I must enter anyway and put money in. I had me a little worried about whether they would send it to the hotel, where I have travelled home from. But no problems there:)

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